[Freebase-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Re: "Support" property for visual artwork proposal

[Jeff Prucher]

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not loving the "support" name either, but don't have a good
> alternative to offer.
>
> A bigger question I have is how one determines what is "support" and
> what is "media"?  In the "oil on board" case it's not very
> controversial, but what about the "found objects nailed to 2x4"?  Is
> the 2"x4" media or support?
>
>
It's probably borderline. For collage, the material things are affixed to
would be the support. For something more sculptural, it might not be
considered to have a support.


> However, if you're going to go through the ~1,000 visual art media to
> identify "supports," could you also do something about things like:
>
>  "Oil, acrylic, gesso, grids, square, pencil lines on canvas. white on
> white"
> vs
>  "Oil, acrylic, gesso, three squares, pencil on canvas. white on white"
>
> or
>
> thirty gelatin silver prints
> collage of gelatin silver prints
> six gelatin silver prints
> gelatin silver prints
> five gelatin silver prints
> seventy gelatin silver prints
> ten gelatin silver prints
> two gelatin silver prints
> album of gelatin silver prints
> suite of five gelatin silver prints
> five gelatin silver prints mounted
> thirty-one gelatin silver prints
> seven gelatin silver prints mounted
> gelatin silver prints in a book
>

Ewwww... Yes, I'll see what we can figure out.

Jeff


>
> Tom
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hmm.... can we come up with a better name than "support" ?
> >
> > What's the support of my clay pot I made in 5th grade ?
> >
> > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Jeff Prucher <jprucher at google.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The visual artwork schema (/visual_art/artwork) does not differentiate
> >> between an artwork's medium (such as oil paint, watercolor, ink, etc.)
> and
> >> its support (such as canvas, paper, wood, etc.). So, in this schema, we
> >> assert that the Mona Lisa's media are oil paint and poplar, which is not
> >> exactly wrong, but it's not exactly right, either. I'd like to add a new
> >> property for "support", so that we could instead assert that the Mona
> Lisa's
> >> medium is oil paint and its support is poplar (or, as normal people
> would
> >> say it, "oil on poplar"). This would then necessitate the fun, fun task
> of
> >> finding all the supports currently listed as media and moving them
> over, but
> >> that's tractable.
> >>
> >>
> >> Schema:
> http://www.freebase.com/schema/base/schemastaging/visual_artwork_extra
> >>
> >> JIRA task: https://bugs.freebase.com/browse/DATA-476
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
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