[Freebase-discuss] Alias needed on /automotive/platform

[Gordon Mackenzie]

Fine with me, I always think of early 1920's aircraft when the term
Monocoque arises in pleasant conversation.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd say NO to adding "Monocoque" as an alias, since to my research and
> understanding, it is the construction technique not necessarily a
> style (first used in aircraft construction) that just happened to also
> be borrowed again to construct unit body, or uni-body styles in
> automobiles.  More correctly I say "a uni-body style is derived from a
> monocoque construction technique"
>
> A quick google book search across the 19th century tells me "monocoque
> construction" & "monocoque shape" were the applied terms used.
>
> @book{1845scientific,
>  title={{Scientific American}},
>  number={v. 248},
>  lccn={04017574},
>  url={http://books.google.com/books?id=AXgPAAAAIAAJ},
>  year={1845},
>  publisher={Scientific American, inc.}
> }
>
> So, adding "Monocoque" would incorrectly conflate the use of the term, I think.
>
> 2cents,
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gordon Mackenzie <gmackenz at google.com> wrote:
>> Try this on for size:
>>
>> "Chassis, Unibody, Unit body, Monocoque, Unit-body, Automobile chassis"
>>
>> for:
>>
>> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/edit/topic/automotive/platform
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes.
>>> Hmm... however, a Search API result didn't score well at all for a double
>>> hitter such as:
>>> "automobile chassis"
>>> Perhaps because we need to actually specify that direct alias as "automobile
>>> chassis" in addition to just chassis ?
>>> I was hoping Search (relevance) would fair a little better there.
>>> 1. What do you think, Gordon ?  Leave as is for now ? or also add
>>> "automobile chassis" ?
>>> The other process that I think is also good alias candidate for "platform"
>>> is called uni-body or unity body.
>>> Which essentially is what most auto makers produce now and what is now
>>> commonly called "the platform", and really what the /automotive/platform
>>> type is referring to. (it's completely focused on that newer construction
>>> idea, and not the early cars' construction of body and chassis, separated.
>>>  Reference: http://www.motorera.com/history/hist09.htm  <-- See Unity Body
>>> for your history lesson.  Even I forgot some of it!
>>> 2. So the other question is if perhaps an additional alias of "unity body"
>>> and "uni-body platform" and "unibody platform" actually might be entirely
>>> acceptable and recommended on the type as well ?
>>>
>>> 3. I'm iffy at best on adding "monocoque" as an alias, in any form, since
>>> it's THE design construction technique itself for the notion of a "unibody
>>> platform"
>>> Additional thoughts ?
>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Gordon Mackenzie <gmackenz at google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this what you want?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/edit/topic/automotive/platform
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > oops.  My correction did not stick.  That should have said, add 1 alias.
>>>> >  Just chassis.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I need an admin to add 2 aliases on /automotive/platform for the term
>>>> >> "chassis", it's highly synonymous and used within the industry as well.
>>>> >> A "chassis" or "undercarriage" is nearly 90% of a "platform" in
>>>> >> realistic
>>>> >> terms of manufacturing and production of automobiles.
>>>> >> Also Note: A "undercarriage" includes a "chassis", even historically
>>>> >> speaking with horse drawn carriages.  But "undercarriage" is not
>>>> >> typically
>>>> >> used synonymously in descriptions of a "platform" in the automobile
>>>> >> industry, so no need for "undercarriage" as an additional alias.  Just
>>>> >> "chassis".
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> -Thad
>>>> >> http://www.freebase.com/view/en/thad_guidry
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
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