[Freebase-discuss] Alias needed on /automotive/platform

[Thad Guidry]

I'd say NO to adding "Monocoque" as an alias, since to my research and
understanding, it is the construction technique not necessarily a
style (first used in aircraft construction) that just happened to also
be borrowed again to construct unit body, or uni-body styles in
automobiles.  More correctly I say "a uni-body style is derived from a
monocoque construction technique"

A quick google book search across the 19th century tells me "monocoque
construction" & "monocoque shape" were the applied terms used.

@book{1845scientific,
  title={{Scientific American}},
  number={v. 248},
  lccn={04017574},
  url={http://books.google.com/books?id=AXgPAAAAIAAJ},
  year={1845},
  publisher={Scientific American, inc.}
}

So, adding "Monocoque" would incorrectly conflate the use of the term, I think.

2cents,

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gordon Mackenzie <gmackenz at google.com> wrote:
> Try this on for size:
>
> "Chassis, Unibody, Unit body, Monocoque, Unit-body, Automobile chassis"
>
> for:
>
> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/edit/topic/automotive/platform
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes.
>> Hmm... however, a Search API result didn't score well at all for a double
>> hitter such as:
>> "automobile chassis"
>> Perhaps because we need to actually specify that direct alias as "automobile
>> chassis" in addition to just chassis ?
>> I was hoping Search (relevance) would fair a little better there.
>> 1. What do you think, Gordon ?  Leave as is for now ? or also add
>> "automobile chassis" ?
>> The other process that I think is also good alias candidate for "platform"
>> is called uni-body or unity body.
>> Which essentially is what most auto makers produce now and what is now
>> commonly called "the platform", and really what the /automotive/platform
>> type is referring to. (it's completely focused on that newer construction
>> idea, and not the early cars' construction of body and chassis, separated.
>>  Reference: http://www.motorera.com/history/hist09.htm  <-- See Unity Body
>> for your history lesson.  Even I forgot some of it!
>> 2. So the other question is if perhaps an additional alias of "unity body"
>> and "uni-body platform" and "unibody platform" actually might be entirely
>> acceptable and recommended on the type as well ?
>>
>> 3. I'm iffy at best on adding "monocoque" as an alias, in any form, since
>> it's THE design construction technique itself for the notion of a "unibody
>> platform"
>> Additional thoughts ?
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Gordon Mackenzie <gmackenz at google.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this what you want?
>>>
>>> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/edit/topic/automotive/platform
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > oops.  My correction did not stick.  That should have said, add 1 alias.
>>> >  Just chassis.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I need an admin to add 2 aliases on /automotive/platform for the term
>>> >> "chassis", it's highly synonymous and used within the industry as well.
>>> >> A "chassis" or "undercarriage" is nearly 90% of a "platform" in
>>> >> realistic
>>> >> terms of manufacturing and production of automobiles.
>>> >> Also Note: A "undercarriage" includes a "chassis", even historically
>>> >> speaking with horse drawn carriages.  But "undercarriage" is not
>>> >> typically
>>> >> used synonymously in descriptions of a "platform" in the automobile
>>> >> industry, so no need for "undercarriage" as an additional alias.  Just
>>> >> "chassis".
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> -Thad
>>> >> http://www.freebase.com/view/en/thad_guidry
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
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