[Freebase-discuss] Modifying - or accessing - topic descriptions through MQL

Wed Dec 21 00:34:03 UTC 2011

Ah, I see. That looks reasonable to me. Here's how you would write the
example textual description which you gave:

{
  "id": "/m/0hnv4x4",
  "/base/biblioness/exception/explanation": {
    "connect": "insert",
    "value":   "The name of a Location in Freebase should be its actual
name, without additional disambiguating phrases. For example, use \"New
York\" instead of \"New York, NY\" for New York City.",
    "lang":    "/lang/en"
  }
}

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Fred M. Katz <fred at katz.com> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
> Yes, an (additional) exception mechanism for Freebase is the object of the
> exercise.
>
> But, no, I was not planning to edit the descriptions for the topics that
> have exceptions - just the descriptions of the Exceptions themselves, and
> associated rules or constraints.
>
> There's a very small example at:
>
> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/view/base/biblioness/exception/complex_name_0rh6k
>
> The Exception has properties to describe:
> -  the rule that's been "broken" - in this case a rule that says that
> place names with commas are, at least,    suspicious.
> - the object or objects involved, in this case just Washington, D.C.
> (which happens to be a good exception to the rule itself).  (For a loop
> exception, it would contain the several places in the loop.)
> - the process that generated the exception (for now, just a text name)
> - A status field: in this case, set to "Reviewed - OK" to indicate that a
> human has looked at the exception and noted that it's not really a problem.
> Other statuses would include: "Fixed manually" if someone goes to the
> right page and edits it, or "Apply automatic fix" (available for some
> rules.)
> - and, finally, an Explanation, which says what the exception is about.
>
> So, the plan is - not to change the topic description for Washington, D.C
> - as you seem to have feared - but to
> include the text currently in the Explanation field as the topic
> description for the Complex Name rule, as well as a more customized version
> of that text in the topic description for the generated Exception.
>
> The rules could be edited through the Freebase UI, but the individual
> Exceptions would be added Freebase through MQL - and, that's why I would
> like to know how to add descriptions to them through MQL.
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:52:42 -0800
> From: Shawn Simister <simister at google.com>
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> Hi Fred,
>
> So if I understand correctly, you're building an application that aims to
> find broken data in Freebase and annotate it with these exceptions so that
> they can be cleaned up by the community? This sounds like a really
> interesting idea. I don't think that modifying the topic descriptions is
> the right approach however.
>
> You might be interested to take a look at the Review
> Flag<http://www.freebase.com/schema/freebase/review_flag>and Flag
> Kind <http://www.freebase.com/schema/freebase/flag_kind> types. This is
> how
> the community currently annotates topics that need certain types of
> cleanup. These flags get picked up and voted by the community using the
> Review
> Queue tool <http://wiki.freebase.com/wiki/Review_queue>.
>
> I'd suggest that you create similar types in your own base. Something like
> Cleanup Flag and Cleanup Flag Kind. This will allow you to record all the
> topics involved in the cleanup (eg. New York, Chicago, US) as well as the
> status of the cleanup. Once you've loaded some sample data to the sandbox
> I'd be happy to show you how to create a simple dashboard in Acre so that
> the community could monitor your data cleanup flags and act on them. If
> this turns into something really useful for the community we can talk about
> ways to integrate it into the main Freebase website.
>
> You might also be interested in the To Do Lists
> base<http://todolists.freebase.com>which has a number of queries that
> the community has designed to help find
> bad data in Freebase.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Fred M. Katz <fred at katz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Shawn,
> > Thanks, but I'm looking for (hoping for) something else - something that
> > doesn't involve articles, maybe.
> >
> > Maybe it will help if I give you some background.
> > I am creating Exception objects (from a Perl program that invokes MQL),
> > based on a set of rules.
> >
> > The Exceptions will have short, descriptive remarks, like
> >        "There's a loop in the containedBy relation: Chicago is in New
> > York, which is in the US, which is in Chicago".
> >
> > So, I want to insert that remark when I create the Exception.  Is there
> > some text valued attribute that can be used to set the description.  (I
> > suppose I could define a separate attribute, but am hoping to use the
> > standard description.)
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM, <
> freebase-discuss-request at freebase.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:51:20 -0800
> >> From: Shawn Simister <simister at google.com>
> >>
> >> Hi Fred,
> >>
> >> You can see our new text APi for downloading articles associated with
> >> topic
> >> in Freebase here:
> >> http://wiki.freebase.com/wiki/Text_Service
> >>
> >> We haven't yet launched our new article upload service yet. Until then,
> >> you
> >> can read about how to upload text and images using our old APIs here:
> >> http://www.freebase.com/docs/mql/ch06.html#dataimport
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Fred M. Katz <fred at katz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > How can I set the description for a topic through MQL.
> >> > For that matter, how can I get it?
> >> >
> >> > The properties for /common/topic include a reference to an article,
> but
> >> > that just leads to a blob_id, not to the actual text description.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Fred Katz
> >> >
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