[Developers] Blog properties and ping idea

Shawn Simister narphorium at gmail.com
Thu Aug 23 00:11:56 UTC 2007


I would like to see all tags eventually point to some sort of structured 
knowledge like Freebase but that sort of change takes time. The only 
reason to mix both types of tags is to help people convert without too 
much pain. The concept of offering mouse-over previews like the Snap 
previews seems like a really good way of visually explaining to someone 
what exactly a Freebase-enabled tag is.

I've put together a Desired Application to keep track of some of the 
ideas thus far. Please feel free to add more details as you see fit.

http://www.freebase.com/view/%239202a8c04000641f8000000005b88958

Shawn

Jason Douglas wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Kirrily Robert wrote:
>
>> My
>>
>> question is, what do you do with them once you've got them?
>>
>>
>> The HTML output onto the blog looks like this:
>>
>>
>> <a href="http://infotrope.net/blog/tag/barcamp" rel="tag">barcamp</a>
>>
>>
>> That rel="tag" is what tells Technorati etc that this is a tag and
>>
>> makes them index it appropriately.  Would we want Technorati to index
>>
>> freebase topic tags?  I don't see why not.  So all that would change
>>
>> in the output would be the URL.  Would we keep the Freebase tags
>>
>> separate from the ordinary blog tags?  Maybe.  You want people to have
>>
>> a sense of what they'll get when they click on it, so you don't want
>>
>> them all just mixed up together.
>>
>
>
> I agree that it would be confusing to change the default behavior of 
> showing similarly tagged content from the blog you're reading.
>
> So just brainstorming some ideas...
>
> 1. You could add a small icon after the tag, kind of like the 
> "external link" or the "opens in new window" ones, that links to the 
> Freebase topic.
>
> 2. Or a pop-up on mouse-over that shows a "preview" of the topic based 
> on Freebase properties -- maybe like the fly-out you see in 
> auto-complete on freebase.com -- with a link inside to Freebase.
>
> 3. A combination of #1 & #2... which is basically what Snap.com does 
> (see Read/Write Web or Techcrunch)
>
> 4. As you mentioned... Freebase topics referenced could just be a 
> separate listing from tags.  This seems like more work for the blogger 
> and visually it could mean some repetition and clutter.  However, they 
> would be serving a different purpose (related content vs. 
> look-up/reference) so maybe it's OK.
>
> However, I personally like the idea of treating the Freebase link as a 
> "normalized" tag (as opposed to a completely independent thing) 
> because I would hope that some day the connections within Freebase 
> could be used to provide a much more compelling way to browse tags & 
> related content within a blog.  There has got to be a better way than 
> this:
> http://www.dailykos.com/alltags
>
> :-o
>
> -jason
>
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