<div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333FF">> a webpage object id or url that asserts the data is true?</font></font></span><br><br><div>to nitpick, a source would assert that the data is verifiable, but not necessarily true (e.g. sources for the <a href="http://aliens.freebase.com/">Aliens</a> base). Wikipedia's got a comprehensive write up on verification <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:V" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:V</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333FF">> </font><span style="border-collapse: collapse; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333FF">For every link, I want a way for any user to indicate whether they believe the assertion to be true or false. I imagine this could be > accomplished by pointing a protected user or group object to the link</font></span></div>
<div><br></div><div>+1 to the idea, but in practice this meta-meta-data could get complex.</div><div>I threw together a <b>prototype</b> schema of how this might happen, but please note that this <b>DOES NOT WORK</b> in the client. (doesn't show links)</div>
<div>A <a href="http://www.freebase.com/type/schema/user/sprocketonline/default_domain/fact?domain=/user/sprocketonline/default_domain">verification</a> type linking a link to a source of verification, and also to user reviews of this source.</div>
<div>A <a href="http://www.freebase.com/type/schema/user/sprocketonline/default_domain/verification_source?domain=/user/sprocketonline/default_domain">verification source</a> type, which can be added to a website, written work etc.. User's can review if this is reliable or not.</div>
<div>A <a href="http://www.freebase.com/type/schema/user/sprocketonline/default_domain/verification_review?domain=/user/sprocketonline/default_domain">verification review</a> type which would allow users to check out a verification/source and leave a report.</div>
<div>A<a href="http://www.freebase.com/type/schema/user/sprocketonline/default_domain/verification_status?domain=/user/sprocketonline/default_domain"> verification status</a> type which would allow users to review if it is verified, reliable, not present or whatever...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Iain</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Brian Karlak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zenkat@metaweb.com" target="_blank">zenkat@metaweb.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div><div>On Jun 3, 2009, at 6:45 AM, Jack Alves wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">I noticed creator and attribution properties are set to the user when data is created via <a href="http://freebase.com" target="_blank">freebase.com</a>. Are there any cases when they would be different when data is created using <a href="http://freebase.com" target="_blank">freebase.com</a>? <br>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>When writing via <a href="http://freebase.com" target="_blank">freebase.com</a>, the attribution should always show the writing user. I do not believe there is any mechanism available standard MQL to change this,</div>
<div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">What is the intended use for the attribution property? Can anything be inserted in that property? Could it be used to store a webpage object id or url that asserts the data is true? Is attribution intended only for cases where data sets get inhaled like wikipedia or musicbrainz data?<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Some of our large internal data loads, such as the wikipedia update, use a specialized "attribution" node that is cotyped with /type/attribution and /dataworld/provenance. The properties of these type contain information about the dataload, including the information source and software tool used for loading.</div>
<div><br></div><div>However, the attribution mechanism is not generally available for annotating links in general, nor is it accessible to users via <a href="http://freebase.com" target="_blank">freebase.com</a>. </div><div>
<br><blockquote type="cite">This topic is slightly related to something I want to try soon. For every link, I want a way for any user to indicate whether they believe the assertion to be true or false. I imagine this could be accomplished by pointing a protected user or group object to the link. How should something like this be modeled?<br>
</blockquote></div></div><br><div>Currently, we do not support any mechanisms for adding properties to links -- except for the exception of sort index.</div><div><br></div><div>In any case, attribution is probably not the correct way of doing this, as re-attributing to a "protected user" would obscure the original provenance of the link.</div>
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