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color=#0000ff size=2>Do you think that "beverage" should have any properties at
all, or should it just be a bucket to stick classes of things you can drink
(e.g., whiskey, milk, water, fruit juice)?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Jeff</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562133522-09062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>PS -- Mmmm. Whiskey cheese.
http://www.cheesesupply.com/product_info.php/products_id/270</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> data-modeling-bounces@freebase.com
[mailto:data-modeling-bounces@freebase.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed
Laurent<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:48 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Freebase
data modeling mailing list<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Data-modeling] Tweaks to
the food domain<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>It looks like some of the Beverage properties are duplicating what
should be associated with Consumer_product and Alcoholic_beverage. <BR><BR>I
would describe Beverage with very generic properties. For example, <SPAN
class=producttitle>"Jack Daniel's Whiskey Single Barrel 94@</SPAN> <SPAN
class=bottlesize>750ML" would be a Consumer_product linked to "Jack Daniel's
Whiskey Single Barrel 94" that is linked to Whiskey, which is co-typed with
Beverage and Alcoholic_beverage. <BR><BR>Similarly, "Milk" would be typed with
Beverage. I could see "Skim milk" as a topic of a "Milk type" enumerated type
or go the route of adding properties to a Milk_product type that could be
co-typed within Cheese and used to describe "Mozzarella
cheese".<BR><BR>Another route would be to develop the schema so that the
consumer product "Fresh Mozzarella" would be typed with Consumer_product and
include a link to a Cheese CVT that includes properties such as Cheese_type,
Milk_source (e.g., cow, goat), etc.<BR><BR>Somehow I went from Beverage and
Whiskey to Cheese... <BR><BR>-Ed<BR><BR></SPAN>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Jeff Prucher <<A
href="mailto:jeff@metaweb.com">jeff@metaweb.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">There
are bunch of types for various beverages in the food domain, some
of<BR>which could use a little fixing up. (Most of these were also made by
me --<BR>mea culpa!)<BR><BR>1) Beverage <<A
href="http://www.freebase.com/tools/schema/food/beverage"
target=_blank>http://www.freebase.com/tools/schema/food/beverage</A>>.
I'm<BR>wondering if this type is even necessary. The instances are a mix of
general<BR>beverage varieties ("Cocktail") and specific varieties
("Newcastle Brown<BR>Ale"), so at the very least this should be normalized
and cleaned up. And<BR>both them "manufacturer" and "place of origin"
properties seem redundant<BR>with some of the more fully-fleshed out
beverage schemas, like beer and<BR>wine. And the "color" property is
probably pointless.<BR><BR><BR>2) Whisky: This has a similar problem as
beverage, in that the instances<BR>include both distilleries and products. I
think that a simple fix would be<BR>to add a "distillery" property (and
type), and reserve the "whisky" type for<BR>the specific whiskys (similar to
the beer/brewery relationship). There's<BR>probably a lot more that
could be done with whiskies, but for now I'd just<BR>like to clean up the
current model.<BR><BR>What do you all think?<BR><BR>Jeff
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