I guess it's growing on me and Shawn's definition helps quite a bit except I would replace "organization" with "person, company, or other organization". My concern is that the product <-> producer concepts are so general that they should be well thought out and modeled as generally as possible so that they support all relevant co-types now and in the future. For example, are UPC, weight/volume, and cost universal properties of a product? Coca-cola for example has different combinations of ingredients depending on where it is sold. Similarly, my motorcycle model has a different gear ratio when sold in Japan compared to the
U.S. Maybe these versions have different UPCs but their differences in weight/volume are insignificant and you might be able to sell each version for the same price. I don't know how many topics in Freebase can/will be considered products but it's probably a bunch. Any problems later on could have big implications.
<br><br>-Ed<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 7, 2008 12:19 AM, Shawn Simister <<a href="mailto:narphorium@gmail.com">narphorium@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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I would define a Product as a tangible object which is sold by an
organization under a specific brand name. Therefore corn or people are
not products but Corn Flakes and People Magazine are. I know that there
are more general definitions of products, but I think they could be
accommodated by additional types like Commercial Service, Commodity etc.<br>
<br>
Shawn<br>
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Ed Laurent wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">The "Products producer" type with a "Products produced"
property sounds pretty good to me. The "Product" type a little less so.
Would every tangible topic (including people) need to be typed as a
product? What defines a product that separates it from other tangible
topics? I agree that this kind of type could be very useful and there
should be reciprocation between product and producer but I'm not
excited about this approach to doing it. <br>
<br>
-Ed<br>
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P.S. This conversation is probably more relevant to the Data Modeling
list so I'm cc'ing it. <br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 6, 2008 10:05 PM, Daniel E. Renfer
<<a href="mailto:duck@kronkltd.net" target="_blank">
duck@kronkltd.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">It
would probably make sense to have some sort of "products producer"
<br>
co-type. The producers would have a "products produced" link to the<br>
"producer" field of the corresponding "product" type.<br>
<br>
Not every company produces products, and there are some products that
<br>
are produced by groups other than companies.<br>
<br>
Other than that, it sounds like great information to track.<br>
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Kavitha Srinivas wrote:<br>
> For companies, is there any interest in linking companies to their
<br>
> major products (e.g., Pfizer to its key pharma products) as listed
in<br>
> Wikipedia? I don't mind adding it, but there is no appropriate
slot<br>
> to add it.<br>
> Key products seems to be important information for a company.
<br>
> Thanks!<br>
> Kavitha<br>
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