[Data-modeling] Rivalry ~ Just a base of views or type(s)?

[Robert Cook]

Well, given the examples so far, most have blurbs and many have images:

http://rivalries.freebase.com/view/base/rivalries/rivalry

Also, the client has a bug, but if it were fixed, it would be possible  
to add an item without a display name, which would make it almost  
identical to a CVT-mediator when viewed from a the topic typed as  
"Rival".

R

On May 20, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Jeff Prucher wrote:

> I like the other model better; having topics for the rivalries seems  
> too
> complex. Besides making the table view easier to parse, does it buy us
> anything?  It is a pity that sibling-style CVTs display so poorly in  
> the
> table view.
>
> Jeff
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com
>> [mailto:data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com] On Behalf Of Robert Cook
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:33 PM
>> To: Freebase data modeling mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] Rivalry ~ Just a base of views
>> or type(s)?
>>
>> I took a stab at a generic rivalry type:
>>   http://rivalries.freebase.com/view/base/rivalries/rivalry
>>
>> Instead of a CVT-mediator, I made it a full topic just to see
>> if that feels better.  Indeed for many sports rivalries there
>> seem to already be topics.
>>
>> The alternative would be specific versions of this schema
>> repeated, say, for people, companies and sports teams.
>>
>> But this is as good as place as any to start collecting real data.
>>
>> R
>>
>>
>> On May 20, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Gordon Mackenzie wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking at a entry about the high school I attended
>> when on e of
>>> the opening sentences sparked a thought; rivalry. It was noted that
>>> the Petaluma High School's long-time rival was the Casa Grande High
>>> School... Brought back memories.
>>>
>>> All sports seem to promote rivalry... Baseball, Tennis,
>> Football, etc.
>>> All feature dramatic historical rivalry between teams and
>> individuals.
>>>
>>> Then of course, as a type it could be very generic to be
>> used across
>>> many domains, a CVT probably. It might include date range for start
>>> and end of rivalry (if such things ever truly end). Maybe a
>> property
>>> to capture notable events?
>>>
>>> There are all sorts of rivals in life: Business, the Arts,
>>> Exploration, Military Branches, Countries.
>>>
>>> So my thought is to create a single type that has a
>> property for type
>>> of rivalry (commerce, sport, artistic, national, educational,
>>> cultural, ideological, etc, or is it better to have
>> separate types for
>>> the various kinds rivalries?
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>> Note: I see that Robert created a celebrity rival property:
>>>
>>> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/view/celebrities/rivalry
>>>
>>> Here are topics about it:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/search?limit=30&start=0&query=rivalry
>>>
>>> Note the topics about specific notable rivalries
>>>
>>> ~ Gordon
>>>
>>> <<< gordon at metaweb.com >>>
>>>
>>>
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