[Data-modeling] TV sub-episodes

Jeff Prucher jeff at metaweb.com
Mon May 18 17:39:30 UTC 2009


I don't think we want to model at the scene/act level. For most shows, the
data is the same: same writer, same director, same producer. It's true that
different actors will appear in different scenes, but I think that's only of
trivial interest (if at all). I'd much rather just stick to
segments/shorts/etc. that are clearly separate entities.

Jeff


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> I would call these 'scenes' A scene is the most basic element 
> of most TV/theater productions...That's what I remember from 
> my acting days. Scenes make up an act, acts make up a 
> play/teleplay/episode. 
> 
> A notable 'scene' would be like the 
> specially-directed-by-guest-director Q. Tarantino, the night 
> drive to the tar pit with Clive Owen having a very strange 
> conversation with the dead man talking, Benicio del Toro. 
> 
> 
> Jeff Prucher wrote:
> > This would potentially result in a denormalization of 
> sorts, since the 
> > list of people involved in a show comprising multiple 
> segments should 
> > be the union of the list of people for each segment. I think we can 
> > live with this, but it might look a bit odd to some people.
> 
> Can delegation be used?  Although a segment is not an 
> episode, I do not think it is in any way misleading to say 
> that the Dead Parrot Sketch has a /tv/tv_episode/producer of ... .
> 
> > I'm also not convinced that "segment" is the right term, since news 
> > programs (for example) can be organized into things called segments 
> > that are different than what I'm trying to model.
> 
> I think that the term of art for news shorts, comedy shorts, 
> and variety shorts is the same; I don't have a problem with 
> that.  And a news segment may well have a distinct director 
> from the director of a half-hour news broadcast taken in toto.
> 
> ~Chris
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