[Data-modeling] Proposed changes to Deity properties

[Reilly Hayes]

Some Deitys may not be worshipped by the people who believe in them.

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On Mar 11, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Jeff Fry wrote:

> FYI, Deity Of has been changed on production to Religion(s) That  
> Worship
> This Deity.
>
> Tom's question of whether saints and deities can share a property that
> tracks both Vulcan's domain of influence and the things a saint is a
> patron of is interesting. They don't currently share a common type, so
> that would mean coming up with one or delegating a property. Given  
> that
> a saint's patronage currently just accepts text, there's no point in
> delegating that. My inclination right now is to just create a  
> Sphere(s)
> of Influence property on Deity, with and ECT of Sphere of Influence.
> This could be delegated to Saint at some future point, if useful. I've
> gone ahead and set Spheres of Influence up on sandbox for review.
>
> One can now list that Vulcan governs Fire and Technology
> http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/en/vulcan
>
> And more interestingly, this gives us views like
> http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/religion/views/fire_gods
>
> Note, I've also created a reverse property on Sphere of Influence,  
> e.g.
> http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/en/fire
>
> I welcome any feedback on the model or on names of types/properties.
>
> Bonus can of worms: Now I kind of want to be able to see what gender  
> my
> fire gods are, or a view of the spheres of influence of female gods.  
> Do
> we add a gender topic to Deity? How about Parents, Children and
> Siblings? If we want this sort of detail for deities it's applicable  
> to,
> are we better off using a cotype?
>
> Jeff F
>
>
>
> Tom Morris wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Jeff Fry <jfry at metaweb.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It seems like we need to (a) give the deity_of property a less  
>>> ambiguous
>>> name, and possibly also (b) add a new property to capture things  
>>> like
>>> that Vulcan is a fire god -- possibly something like "Sphere(s)" or
>>> "Domain(s)" with an ECT like "Religious Sphere".
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>> For (b) I'll propose a new property named Sphere with an ECT of
>>> Religious Sphere. This would enable, say, a view of fire gods across
>>> religions.
>>>
>>
>> If it can be done without warping your model too much, it would be
>> good to be able to cover religious figures who aren't gods e.g.  
>> Patron
>> Saint of <foo> where <foo> is either a subject (travel, lost things)
>> or a place.
>>
>> Tom
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