[Data-modeling] how much work done on modeling of personal names -- even for surname + given name?

[Ed Laurent]

I revised the model because the one I described below wasn't working the way
I thought it would . Unfortunately, all my changes are giving Freebase
hiccups. I've duplicated the model on sandbox and it's working like I think
it should (except for the pesky resorting of name order). I also used "Given
Name" and "Family Name" in the model. Here are some links:

http://sandbox.freebase.com/type/schema/base/litcentral/person_name_format

http://sandbox.freebase.com/type/schema/base/litcentral/person_full_name

A couple things I noticed:

1) Would it be possible to open up the administrative rights to sandbox
schema? I'd like to see how reciprocated links would work on "Given Name"
and "Family Name" but can't. Isn't testing potential changes to other's
schema one of the things sandbox is for?

2) Individual names don't show up in Freebase search unless they are already
typed for the property. It used to be possible to limit the search to an
exact match using a period. That's no longer the case. It would be nice if
that functionality was brought back.

-Ed


On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Ed Laurent <spatial.db at gmail.com> wrote:

> I modeled a "Person name" and associated schema as a strawman for this
> discussion. My thinking is that people could be typed with this poorly named
> "Person name format"...
>
> http://litcentral.freebase.com/type/schema/base/litcentral/person_name_format
>
> ...which has couple properties that are all linked to a "person full name"
> CVT
> http://litcentral.freebase.com/type/schema/base/litcentral/person_full_name
>
> While I was originally leaning toward using machine readable string
> properties, that wouldn't work for reciprocating a list of people with each
> name in the UI. Maybe that's overkill but it would be pretty interesting and
> could serve as another route for enticing people to enter data.
>
> In retrospect I should have done this in sandbox, but it's already built in
> Freebase proper.
>
> Bash away or model something better!
>
> -Ed
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Christopher R. Maden <crism at metaweb.com>wrote:
>
>> Raymond Yee wrote:
>> > My question is: should I wait until there is some change made to
>> > /people/person or should I kludge together my own type (that has the
>> > inelegant but workable firstname, lastname, middlename properties),
>> > apply that type to topics I care about, and then migrate to the new type
>> > when it's implemented? What's the recommended practice here?
>>
>> Proof of concept is definitely encouraged.  Model it yourself, invite
>> others to use it and comment.  See what works and what doesn’t, and that
>> will definitely inform decisions made in the Freebase commons.
>>
>> ~Chris
>> --
>> Christopher R. Maden
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