[Data-modeling] Products with ingredients

[Faye Harris]

Very cool!

That rice flour is called a "variety of" rice in the schema is indeed 
very odd.

Based on the sandbox examples, this schema seems to use "variety of" for 
two types of relationships:
    1) variety of, e.g. brown rice is a "variety of" rice
    2) derived from, e.g. rice flour is "derived from" rice

The former relationship is categorical, the latter relates to 
post-processing.

-- Faye


Jeff Prucher wrote:
> OK, I've got the double-phylogeny pattern working now. Take a look here:
> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/type/schema/business/product_ingredient
>
> And here's a table view of the ingredients of a breakfast cereal I found in
> the office kitchen:
> http://www.sandbox-freebase.com/view/user/jeff/default_domain/views/cranberr
> y_almond_crunch_ingredients
>
> I'm not really happy with the "variety of" and "generalization of" names,
> but I'm not coming up with anything better. Any suggestions would be most
> welcome.
>
> Jeff
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com 
>> [mailto:data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Prucher
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:42 AM
>> To: Freebase data modeling mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] Products with ingredients
>>
>>
>> ----- "Faye Harris" <faye at metaweb.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> From: "Faye Harris" <faye at metaweb.com>
>>> To: "Freebase data modeling mailing list" 
>>>       
>> <data-modeling at freebase.com>
>>     
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:59:19 PM GMT -08:00 
>>>       
>> US/Canada Pacific
>>     
>>> Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] Products with ingredients
>>>
>>> Jeff Prucher wrote:
>>>       
>>>> ----- "Robert Cook" <robert at metaweb.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>         
>>>>> One solution would be to create a topic with a long name -- enter
>>>>>           
>>> it
>>>       
>>>>> exactly as it appears on the label such as "Enriched flour -
>>>>>           
>>> (wheat,
>>>       
>>>>> niacin, iron, baby powder, sawdust, DDT)".
>>>>>     
>>>>>           
>>>> This would answer. Anyone else have any comments or 
>>>>         
>> thoughts on this
>>     
>>> before I load the schema?
>>>       
>>>>   
>>>>         
>>> The main problem with this is you can't arrive at the products that 
>>> use enriched flour by clicking on a property link from a single 
>>> "enriched
>>>
>>> flour" topic. Rather, you have to do a keyword search for products 
>>> based on matching all the various "enriched flour - (foo, bar, bat, 
>>> baz)"
>>> ingredient topics with the words "enriched" and "flour". 
>>>       
>> That's quite 
>>     
>>> a loss in queriability.> > 
>>> The schema is fine to get us started, but we're still going 
>>>       
>> to try to
>>     
>>> put together some phylogeny pattern in place (in the near future) 
>>> right?
>>>       
>
>   
>> I plan to add a phylogeny pattern before moving the schema to 
>> freebase.com, which should help queryability. It doesn't 
>> address the fact that topics named things like "enriched 
>> flour (that, that, the other thing)" are exceedingly ugly, 
>> however (no-one said it was called "prettybase.com", though). 
>>  I was going to post a revised schema to sandbox, with the 
>> double-phylogeny pattern suggested by Robert, but it got 
>> horribly munged in the process. I'll try to fix it, but it 
>> might not be till next week.
>>
>> Jeff
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