[Data-modeling] Type for groups/sets of people (or any entity?)

Robert Cook robert at metaweb.com
Mon Jul 20 21:13:46 UTC 2009


So, I tried the list type on it, and the results are here:
   http://www.freebase.com/edit/topic/en/erinyes

This does seem awkward in this case as one wouldn't normally think of  
this as a list and the members as entries, so perhaps it's a bit too  
generic (but clearly this isn't a group of people either.)

My data modeling instincts tell me that this would quickly turn into  
something like a Group of Mythological Entities type, so this may not  
be the best example of when to use a generic list type.

R

On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Ed Laurent wrote:

> Another use case is/are Erinyes.
>
> -Ed
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Robert Cook <robert at metaweb.com>  
> wrote:
>
> On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Iain Sproat wrote:
>
> > The reason for creating the type was that groups are often mentioned
> > in literature, art and media, and not just as a list of
> > individuals .  The group as an entity is the focus, and not the
> > component pieces.
> >
> >  the name "people" seems a little awkward.
> >
> > Yeah, agreed.  My initial idea of the type is that it is to be used
> > for small definable groups which share some sort of connection and
> > relevance to each other; e.g. played music together, attended an
> > event together, lived together, worked closely together,  are/were
> > conjoined, wrote together etc..  "People" doesn't really get that
> > across.
>
> This is very interesting.  Normally I would say that these could be
> defined with properties on a topic, but what I think you're implying
> is that there is no topic in many cases.  For instance, you would
> normally be able to tell of people lived together if they all shared
> the same value on their "Places lived" property.  But perhaps you
> don't know where they lived, but just that they lived together.
>
> I think a generic list type is a great way to start capturing data if
> even in a semi-structured way.  As long as the data gets into
> Freebase, then it should be straightforward to upgrade the formality
> as needed.
>
> R
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