[Data-modeling] Innovator and Original Idea

[Kirrily Robert]

I've been working on a different/conflicting way of modeling abstract  
concepts like theories, ideas, etc.  Here's my version: http://concepts.freebase.com/

K.

On Jul 14, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Faye Harris wrote:

> Iain Sproat wrote:
>> I think Influence would be the most appropriate commons as these are
>> novel ideas which have had a large influence; and arguments are to do
>> with influencing others (also the influence commons is pretty sparse
>> on schema at the moment.)
> I think /influence may be a good domain for this. I've also considered
> /education, but not all ideas came out of an educational environment.
>
>> Original Idea
>> <http://www.freebase.com/type/schema/base/argumentmaps/original_idea?domain=/base/argumentmaps 
>> >
>> would probably benefit from a phylogeny pattern to model which ideas
>> then influenced other ideas, and which ideas it was based on.  (or is
>> that the purpose of variation_of_idea? variation_of_idea appears to  
>> me
>> more like a competing idea - e.g. flat world vs. circumnavigation).
> It's been proposed several times that either we generalize the  
> existing
> "Influence Node" type to apply to more than just people, or create a  
> new
> type to model influences between any two of people, ideas, movements,
> books, etc. I guess I'm resurrecting the debate here. Instead of  
> adding
> properties to model influences of an Original Idea, I would still  
> prefer
> using cotype.
>
>> A nice-to-have would be 'Advocates' and 'Opponents' properties on
>> Original Idea.  A lot of ideas are controversial and it would be good
>> to model which people agreed and disagreed.
> This is interesting. An idea, especially an influential one, can  
> form a
> school of thought, as modeled by Al at:
> /user/alexander/philosophy/school_of_thought
>
> -- Faye
>
>>
>> Iain
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Faye Harris <faye at metaweb.com
>> <mailto:faye at metaweb.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    I think Spencer's "Innovator" and "Original Idea" are great types.
>>    It's
>>    a step forward in capturing contributions by scientists and social
>>    scientists.
>>
>>    I would love to promote them to the Commons. Neither Jeff nor I,
>>    however, could think of to what Domain they should be promoted.
>>    Also, is
>>    there any other property "Innovator" should have?
>>
>>    http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argumentmaps/innovator
>>    http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argumentmaps/original_idea
>>    <http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argumentmaps/original_idea>
>>
>>
>>    -- Faye
>>
>>
>>    Spencer Kelly wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Faye Harris <faye at metaweb.com
>>    <mailto:faye at metaweb.com>
>>> <mailto:faye at metaweb.com <mailto:faye at metaweb.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    They develop theories, and a property here will finally link
>>>    /en/albert_einstein to /en/theory_of_relativity in Freebase,
>>    thus
>>>    uniting two inseparable scientific entities.
>>>
>>>
>>> i know this is just an example, but im trying to map this stuff
>>> already with
>>    http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argumentmaps/original_idea
>>> if thats the only property, we maybe dont need a physicist type
>>    (yet).
>>>
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