[Data-modeling] Innovator and Original Idea

[Faye Harris]

Iain Sproat wrote:
> I think Influence would be the most appropriate commons as these are 
> novel ideas which have had a large influence; and arguments are to do 
> with influencing others (also the influence commons is pretty sparse 
> on schema at the moment.)
I think /influence may be a good domain for this. I've also considered 
/education, but not all ideas came out of an educational environment.

> Original Idea 
> <http://www.freebase.com/type/schema/base/argumentmaps/original_idea?domain=/base/argumentmaps> 
> would probably benefit from a phylogeny pattern to model which ideas 
> then influenced other ideas, and which ideas it was based on.  (or is 
> that the purpose of variation_of_idea? variation_of_idea appears to me 
> more like a competing idea - e.g. flat world vs. circumnavigation).
It's been proposed several times that either we generalize the existing 
"Influence Node" type to apply to more than just people, or create a new 
type to model influences between any two of people, ideas, movements, 
books, etc. I guess I'm resurrecting the debate here. Instead of adding 
properties to model influences of an Original Idea, I would still prefer 
using cotype.

> A nice-to-have would be 'Advocates' and 'Opponents' properties on 
> Original Idea.  A lot of ideas are controversial and it would be good 
> to model which people agreed and disagreed.
This is interesting. An idea, especially an influential one, can form a 
school of thought, as modeled by Al at:
/user/alexander/philosophy/school_of_thought

-- Faye

>
> Iain
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Faye Harris <faye at metaweb.com 
> <mailto:faye at metaweb.com>> wrote:
>
>     I think Spencer's "Innovator" and "Original Idea" are great types.
>     It's
>     a step forward in capturing contributions by scientists and social
>     scientists.
>
>     I would love to promote them to the Commons. Neither Jeff nor I,
>     however, could think of to what Domain they should be promoted.
>     Also, is
>     there any other property "Innovator" should have?
>
>     http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argumentmaps/innovator
>     http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argumentmaps/original_idea
>     <http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argumentmaps/original_idea>
>
>
>     -- Faye
>
>
>     Spencer Kelly wrote:
>     > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Faye Harris <faye at metaweb.com
>     <mailto:faye at metaweb.com>
>     > <mailto:faye at metaweb.com <mailto:faye at metaweb.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     They develop theories, and a property here will finally link
>     >     /en/albert_einstein to /en/theory_of_relativity in Freebase,
>     thus
>     >     uniting two inseparable scientific entities.
>     >
>     >
>     > i know this is just an example, but im trying to map this stuff
>     > already with
>     http://www.freebase.com/view/base/argumentmaps/original_idea
>     > if thats the only property, we maybe dont need a physicist type
>     (yet).
>     >
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