[Data-modeling] Multiple Fictional Universes

[Robert Cook]

Here's my crucial question:  Does this data structure happen so often  
that it justifies 20 messages on such a broadly distributed list?  Can  
this be done in the Fictional Universe domain discussion area?

On Nov 12, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Jeff Prucher wrote:

> Isn't a universe just a really, really large place? That contains  
> other
> places?
>
> But the crucial question is, I think: If we were to create a  
> "fictional
> space-time continuum" type, what properties would it have that  
> "fictional
> setting" doesn't?  It's easy enough to attach it to "fictional  
> universe",
> but having done that, what else do we do with it? Or, in other  
> words, how
> would we associate other fictional things to a fictional continuum?   
> And is
> the way we would do that any different from the way we do (or should)
> associate them with settings?
>
> Jeff
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com
>> [mailto:data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com] On Behalf Of Faye Harris
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:13 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] Multiple Fictional Universes
>>
>> I agree with Chris. "Setting" means "place" to most people.
>>
>> If people are conflating two types of things into one Type,
>> then the solution would indeed require creating a new type,
>> so that the two can be separated.
>>
>> Is "space-time continuum" potentially too "techy" a type
>> name? It'd dead-on in terms of precision. ;) Or, how about
>> creating a type "fictional world" to represent a "space-time
>> continuum" inside the "fictional universe" type? Settings
>> inside worlds inside universes. For example, DC Comics
>> Multiverse has Earth-One, Earth-Two, Earth-Three as worlds.
>>
>> -- Faye
>>
>>
>> Christopher R. Maden wrote:
>>> Jeff Prucher wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just had a thought.  We're using "universe" to mean two
>> different
>>>> things here.  The first, and what the type "fictional universe" is
>>>> currently used for, refers to the entirety of the milieu
>> of a work or
>>>> series, which can include multiple alternate worlds.  The
>> other sense
>>>> refers to a single space-time continuum, any number of
>> which might be
>>>> used in a series.  So my question is: why not just consider these
>>>> other continua as Fictional Settings?  That is, the Star Trek
>>>> Universe includes as a setting the Mirror Universe; the DC Comics
>>>> Multiverse has Earth-One, Earth-Two, Earth-Three etc. as
>> settings, and so on.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I believe Fictional Settings was in the running or even used at one
>>> point.  The problem is that "fictional setting" more easily
>> brings to
>>> mind Gotham City or the Shire (or New York or San Francisco) than
>>> Middle Earth or the Mirror Universe.
>>>
>>> ~Chris
>>>
>>
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