[Data-modeling] More fun with the visual art domain

[Jeff Prucher]

If you think it would be of interest, it's easy enough to do. 

*waves magic wand*

There. Have a look.

I think the "date last owned" property makes less intuitive sense on this
page than it does on the "art owner" and "artwork" pages.

http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000007bd1b9c

Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com 
> [mailto:data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com] On Behalf Of Faye Li
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] More fun with the visual art domain
> 
> Thanks for putting this together, Jeff.
> 
> Have you considered making the "Artwork-owner relationship" a 
> reciprocated property of "Art acquisition" type? The CVT 
> makes it a little awkward to picture what that will look 
> like, but I think there's value in seeing, at a glance, all 
> the artworks that are gifts.
> 
> One of the trade-offs of having a single Artwork type for 
> both unique artworks, edited artworks and editions of 
> artworks is the confusing pair of properties "Edition of" and 
> "Editions" that will be empty for 99% of all artworks. It 
> will burn some primitives, but I think it might be worthwhile 
> in the interest of cutting down confusion to insert the value 
> of "None" for those 99% of artworks. It's also regrettable 
> that you can't just query an "Edition" type to see all 
> artwork editions, but have to query against the "Artwork" 
> type for instances that have a value for property "Edition 
> of". Oh well. I see the trade-offs and the reasons behind them.
> 
> I'll leave off my regular bits about CVTs not being 
> search-friendly, as clearly the need outranks the compromised 
> searchability here. Otherwise it looks good.
> 
> -- Faye
> 
> 
> Jeff Prucher wrote:
> > In response to a request on the visual arts discussion boards
> > 
> (http://www.freebase.com/view/discuss/visual_art/artwork#/guid/9202a8c
> > 040006 41f80000000072fa4ba), I've made some proposed changes to the 
> > artwork model, which I'd like to hear feedback on.
> >
> > There are three changes:
> > 1) insertion of a CVT between artwork and location, to track when a 
> > piece has been where, and how long (insert standard 
> discussion about 
> > time-series data here)
> >
> > 2) insertion of a CVT between artwork and owner. This includes not 
> > only dates, but the method it was acquired (e.g., purchase, gift, 
> > bequest), and the purchase price
> >
> > 3) the addition of an "editions" property on artwork (and 
> the reverse 
> > property, "edition of", as well). The idea here is to allow 
> Freebase 
> > to display information about editions of a specific artwork 
> (such as 
> > casts of a sculpture, or prints of a photograph), which may 
> have not 
> > only different locations and owners, but also dimensions, 
> media, and 
> > dates of creation. I decided to model edition simply as 
> "artwork" rather than "artwork edition"
> > because of the desire for museums and other art owners to have only 
> > one property describing their holdings; an "artwork edition" type 
> > would have required two properties -- "artwork owned" and 
> "artwork editions owned"
> > which seemed unnecessarily clumsy. This does mean that the abstract 
> > version of the artwork and the individual edition will have 
> a number 
> > of redundant properties, but my hope is that these can just be left 
> > blank. Naming of editions will be interesting, but that's 
> an issue every time we model them.
> >
> > I've entered some casts of "The Thinker" (in bronze and plaster) on 
> > sandbox for your perusal. (I put the proposed types in a private 
> > domain, so all versions of The Thinker have both the original 
> > "artwork" type and a type with only the proposed additions, 
> "artwork 
> > (test)"; pretend, if you will, that all the properties are 
> one a single type. Let me know what you think.
> >
> > Domain:
> > http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/domain/user/jeff/visual_art
> > Examples:
> > http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/en/the_thinker
> >
> > Jeff Prucher
> > Type Librarian & Ontologist
> > Metaweb Technologies, Inc. 
> >
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