[Data-modeling] "Dish" type for the Food domain

[Jeff Prucher]

I'm not sure that I agree that "Pie" or "Dip" or "Breakfast" is the same
sort of thing as "Pecan Pie" or "Taramosalata" or "Waffle". At least from a
modeling perspective, I don't think it's really possible to say what the
typcial ingredients of Breakfast are.  
 
Re "cuisine", the type description says "The Cuisine type represents various
categories of cooking styles." So "french fries" seems a bit odd to me, but
somebody asserted it as the cuisine of two McDonald's locations.  

Jeff

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[mailto:data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com] On Behalf Of Ed Laurent
	Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 5:05 PM
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	Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] "Dish" type for the Food domain
	
	
	I'd suggest dish as a type that is nested in itself: "Dishes of this
type" and "Type of dish" could be linked in instead of having separate
"Dish" and "Type of dish" types that seem to be the same thing based on
their lists of topics. 
	
	What is the purpose of cuisine? Both "French fry" and "South
African" are typed as cuisine. My suggestion would be to move "French fry"
and similar foods to the "Dish" type. "South African", "Czech", "Mexican",
and other country or cultural references seem more appropriate for cuisine
topics.
	
	-Ed
	
	
	On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Jeff Prucher <jeff at metaweb.com>
wrote:
	

		Kirrily (aka skud) has a few types relating to food dishes
that we're
		considering moving to the commons Food domain, and we'd like
to hear any
		comments before we do so.  The type "Dish" is basically for
general dishes
		(Waldof salad, tabouli, tacos), rather than specific recipes
for these
		dishes. It links to a "Type of dish" (e.g., salad, dessert,
etc.), Cuisine,
		and Typical ingredients.  Take a look and let us know what
you think:
		http://www.freebase.com/view/user/skud/food/dish
		
		Thanks,
		
		Jeff Prucher
		Type Librarian & Ontologist
		Metaweb Technologies, Inc.
		
		
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