[Data-modeling] Tweaks to the food domain
Ed Laurent
spatial.db at gmail.com
Mon Jun 9 23:15:41 UTC 2008
Cheese and crackers that's a good question!!
No properties come to mind besides those that refer to texture, color and
taste but I'm not sure how those should be modeled. Beverage should probably
be co-typed with a generic Liquid type if you don't mind that kind of
overkill.
-Ed
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Jeff Prucher <jeff at metaweb.com> wrote:
> Do you think that "beverage" should have any properties at all, or should
> it just be a bucket to stick classes of things you can drink (e.g., whiskey,
> milk, water, fruit juice)?
>
> Jeff
>
> PS -- Mmmm. Whiskey cheese.
> http://www.cheesesupply.com/product_info.php/products_id/270
>
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> data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com] *On Behalf Of *Ed Laurent
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> *Subject:* Re: [Data-modeling] Tweaks to the food domain
>
> It looks like some of the Beverage properties are duplicating what should
> be associated with Consumer_product and Alcoholic_beverage.
>
> I would describe Beverage with very generic properties. For example, "Jack
> Daniel's Whiskey Single Barrel 94@ 750ML" would be a Consumer_product
> linked to "Jack Daniel's Whiskey Single Barrel 94" that is linked to
> Whiskey, which is co-typed with Beverage and Alcoholic_beverage.
>
> Similarly, "Milk" would be typed with Beverage. I could see "Skim milk" as
> a topic of a "Milk type" enumerated type or go the route of adding
> properties to a Milk_product type that could be co-typed within Cheese and
> used to describe "Mozzarella cheese".
>
> Another route would be to develop the schema so that the consumer product
> "Fresh Mozzarella" would be typed with Consumer_product and include a link
> to a Cheese CVT that includes properties such as Cheese_type, Milk_source
> (e.g., cow, goat), etc.
>
> Somehow I went from Beverage and Whiskey to Cheese...
>
> -Ed
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Jeff Prucher <jeff at metaweb.com> wrote:
>
>> There are bunch of types for various beverages in the food domain, some of
>> which could use a little fixing up. (Most of these were also made by me --
>> mea culpa!)
>>
>> 1) Beverage <http://www.freebase.com/tools/schema/food/beverage>. I'm
>> wondering if this type is even necessary. The instances are a mix of
>> general
>> beverage varieties ("Cocktail") and specific varieties ("Newcastle Brown
>> Ale"), so at the very least this should be normalized and cleaned up. And
>> both them "manufacturer" and "place of origin" properties seem redundant
>> with some of the more fully-fleshed out beverage schemas, like beer and
>> wine. And the "color" property is probably pointless.
>>
>>
>> 2) Whisky: This has a similar problem as beverage, in that the instances
>> include both distilleries and products. I think that a simple fix would be
>> to add a "distillery" property (and type), and reserve the "whisky" type
>> for
>> the specific whiskys (similar to the beer/brewery relationship). There's
>> probably a lot more that could be done with whiskies, but for now I'd just
>> like to clean up the current model.
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> Jeff Prucher
>>
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