[Data-modeling] Capitalism (was Consumer product type)

Thu Jan 31 13:24:16 UTC 2008

The existing "price" type you are looking for is called Money
value<http://freebase.com/view/measurement_unit/money_value>.
There is also a Dated money
value<http://freebase.com/view/measurement_unit/dated_money_value>.

-Ed

On Jan 31, 2008 2:26 AM, Eric Hanson <elh at cs.pdx.edu> wrote:

> There is a great potential here for Freebase to become a powerful guide
> for consumers to make more educated decisions about what they buy and
> where they buy it, both locally and online.  If Freebase can live up to
> the grandeur of its vision (and I think it can), this type, and other
> types in this domain, could define the structure of the future of
> consumer information and capitalism.
>
> I'm most excited about the idea of online and brick-and-mortar retailers
> uploading their inventories cross-referenced with topics in Freebase's
> product type.  It could turn into a vast and incredibly useful tool for
> empowering consumers to make better purchasing decisions, supporting
> local retailers, price hunting, supporting companies and products who
> are in line with their values, and much more.  Imagine it being as easy
> to search the inventories of local retailers as it is to search online
> retailers (ala Froogle).
>
> We should spend more time here, and make sure we're getting it right.
> I'd like to see this domain flushed out more completely to make sure all
> the pieces fit together.
>
> The idea of including product purchase locations is great, but there
> should be a layer of indirection here, to include what store is selling
> it, how much it costs, how many are in stock, etc.  This should be
> possible for both online and brick-and-mortar retailers.
>
> I've created types for Retail Inventory Item and Online Inventory Item,
> which have properties for Seller, Price and for Online inventory item, a
> purchase link, which would go to the specific product's page on a website.
>
>
> http://freebase.com/view/user/erichanson/default_domain/online_inventory_item
>
> http://freebase.com/view/user/erichanson/default_domain/retail_inventory_item
>
> I had to invent the Price type, which seemed surprising -- maybe I'm
> missing something.  Just included a float for ammount and a Currency.
>
> http://freebase.com/view/user/erichanson/default_domain/price
>
> Eric
>
> Robert Cook wrote:
> > If you gather information on products, people would like to know where
> > to purchase it.  These could be added to a more general link type (such
> > as the one on /common/topic) but it seemed to have more utility as a
> > more specific property.
> >
> > Even more importantly, this points to how users of freebase could more
> > easily make money from their applications.
> >
> > R
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Shawn Simister wrote:
> >
> >> The new type looks good to me but I'm curious what the intended use
> >> case for the purchase_links property is?
> >>
> >> Shawn
> >>
> >> Jeff Prucher wrote:
> >>> If there are no more comments on this type, I'll promote it to the
> business
> >>> domain at the end of the week.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com
> >>>> [mailto:data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Kavitha Srinivas
> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:11 PM
> >>>> To: Freebase data modeling mailing list
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] Consumer product type (was
> >>>> Modeling question)
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, then that makes sense.
> >>>> Kavitha
> >>>> On Jan 28, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Jeff Prucher wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yes, that's exactly what we were thinking.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jeff
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com
> >>>>>> [mailto:data-modeling-bounces at freebase.com] On Behalf Of Kavitha
> >>>>>> Srinivas
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:10 PM
> >>>>>> To: Freebase data modeling mailing list
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] Consumer product type (was Modeling
> >>>>>> question)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This looks great.  Just to clarify your point about not wanting to
> >>>>>> encode an association with a brand or company type, do you
> >>>>>>
> >>>> mean that
> >>>>
> >>>>>> there might be a more specific link between a company and
> >>>>>>
> >>>> a product,
> >>>>
> >>>>>> say Apple Inc. has ComputerModels MacBookPro, but that the
> >>>>>>
> >>>> MacBookPro
> >>>>
> >>>>>> will be typed additionally as a consumer_product?
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>> Kavitha
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Jeff Prucher wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Following up on a recent discussion on the data-modelling and
> >>>>>>> developers lists (threads begin here:
> >>>>>>> http://lists.freebase.com/pipermail/developers/2008-January/
> >>>>>>> 001156.html
> >>>>>>> and here:
> >>>>>>> http://lists.freebase.com/pipermail/data-modeling/2008-January/
> >>>>>>> 000250.html),
> >>>>>>> we're proposing a new type to be used for consumer
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> products.  This
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> type is a fairly simple type, with only three properties,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> all of which
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> expect the type
> >>>>>>> "webpage": "official website", "external reviews", and "purchase
> >>>>>>> links". The type would most likely be used as an included type on
> >>>>>>> types that are designed for more specific products, and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> can be used
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> for everything from board games, to computer software, to digital
> >>>>>>> cameras (and more -- examples in the earlier discussion included
> >>>>>>> pharmaceuticals, books, and cars).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We decided against trying to encode an association with a brand,
> >>>>>>> manufacturer, or other company type since the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> relationships between
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> products, brands, and companies can vary greatly between
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> different
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> types of products, and we want to enable communities and interest
> >>>>>>> groups to maintain a more precise structure.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The type is published in my private domain, with some
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> examples of how
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> it might be used:
> >>>>>>> http://www.freebase.com/view/schema/user/jeff/default_domain/
> >>>>>>> consumer_produc
> >>>>>>> t
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Comments welcome.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jeff Prucher
> >>>>>>> Type Librarian & Ontologist
> >>>>>>> Metaweb Technologies, Inc.
> >>>>>>>
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