[Data-modeling] Add page number(s) to "Quotation"

[Jeff Prucher]

I agree -- page number isn't really applicable here. Technically, since we
do have distinct types for book editions, it would be possible to link the
source to a book edition, rather than to a book, but this seems like a bad
idea. For one, it would be very hard to simply find all the quotes from a
single book, since they might be spread across multiple editions.  But for
non-book works (plays, poems, essays, articles, etc.), a page number would
be completely meaningless, since we do not have first-class topics for every
appearance of these types of works.

The reason we used "author" as the name of the property is because we're
looking for the person who authored what was said (whether it was written or
spoken impromptu), rather than the person who said it.  Although, it must be
said, this is still a problem with movie and TV quotes, so maybe it doesn't
really make a difference in that regard.

Jeff

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> Kirrily Robert
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> Subject: Re: [Data-modeling] Add page number(s) to "Quotation"
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> Wouldn't page number be dependent on edition?  On what page 
> does Alice's "Curiouser and curiouser!" appear, for example?
> 
> K.
> 
> On Dec 3, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Ed Laurent wrote:
> 
> > I'm thinking of using the "Quotation" type to store quotes from 
> > published works but need a page number property because 
> page numbers 
> > are often required when citing quotations. It appears that the page 
> > number of the quote would need to be added as a 
> disabiguator so that 
> > this data can be entered when the "Quotation" type is linked as a 
> > property of another type. Does this seem reasonable?
> >
> > I also see that "Author" (linked to "Quotations" property of
> > "Person") is a property of "Quotation", and I'm assuming 
> that is for 
> > instances when the quotation is not from a published source.
> > Otherwise, it is adding denormalization. If this is the 
> case, wouldn't 
> > another name be more appropriate than "Author" (e.g., 
> "Quoted person") 
> > to distinguish it from "Author" of quoted publications?
> >
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