[Data-modeling] Newspaper circulations

Jeff Prucher jeff at metaweb.com
Wed Aug 20 23:13:25 UTC 2008




> -----Original Message-----
Faye Li wrote:
> 
> First of all, I like the improved Newspaper type. Both prices 
> and circulation numbers are much easier to read as part of CVTs.
> Now, looking over the /en/san_francisco_chronicle topic in 
> the old schema with Periodical cotype, I must confess I find 
> some of the division of properties confusing and surprising. 
> Newspaper has a Circulation property, but Periodical doesn't. 

Circulation figures are on Newspaper (and Magazine and Journal) rather than
Periodical because magazines and journals don't have different circulations
for different editions.

> Circulation now references
> editions: "Daily", "Sunday", yet there's no reference to 
> frequency of issues, which is a property of Periodical. 

I'm not sure I follow you -- why should there be a second reference to
frequency of issues if there's already a property for it on periodical?
That said, it might be worth having a property for editions on the Newspaper
type itself, and not just the CVTs

> Newspaper has a Owner property, whereas Periodical has a 
> Publisher property. Why? 

Why are they two properties, or why are they named differently?  I think
there's value in being able to differentiate "Newspapers owned" from
"Magazines published", although you could also extract that from the types
of the things being owned or published.  I would say that neither way of
doing it is wrong, though.  Why they have different names I'm less sure
about -- probably, I just copied the nomenclature of the Wikipedia
infoboxes, but whether this is actually the best terminology, I'm not really
sure.

Jeff

> To be honest I can easily see all of 
> Newspaper's properties move into Periodical.
> 
> -- Faye
> 
> 
> Jeff Prucher wrote:
> > Based on this discussion (<URL:
> > 
> http://www.freebase.com/discuss/threads/book#/guid/9202a8c04000641f800
> > 000000
> > 8dd9130>, I've posted a revision to the model for newspaper 
> > 8dd9130>circulations and
> > prices.  The current model has separate properties for 
> "daily circulation"
> > and "Sunday circulation", and likewise for prices.  My 
> proposed change 
> > turns these into CVTs -- one for circulation and one for price. The 
> > CVTs include a property for "edition", which expects a new type 
> > (Newspaper Edition Type) that will hold the "Sunday", 
> "Daily", "Evening", etc. values.
> >
> > The properties are currently living on a type in a private 
> domain; if 
> > people like them, I'll move them over to the commons Newspaper type.
> >
> > https://www.freebase.com/view/user/jeff/newspaper
> >
> > You can compare the old and new views here:
> > https://www.freebase.com/view/en/san_francisco_chronicle
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Prucher
> > Type Librarian & Ontologist
> > Metaweb Technologies
> >
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